Ban on suction dredges reaffirmed by judge

[calnatv]

saw this in the Redding Searchlight today. No more permits:
http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jul/27/ban-suction-dredges-reaffirmed-judge/

[Gold Seeker]

I found this posted on another forum just now...

"hot off the press, oakland hearing today
by James Madden
14 miners showed up at the court house. The basics, To the Karuk lawyers No you cannot invalidate the permits already issued. To the fish and game. The order is precise you must not use any general fund money on the permit process. You must stop issuing any new dredging permits. So do not have a dredge permit currently it may be a matter of days when you can no longer get one. More to come in the newsletter. Keep the orange cards coming. Get some signed and send them in. So how it looks currently Dredging permits already issued will be valid until the end of 2009.

This was in my UPI web page talk and trade"


Skip

[calnatv]

I got a lively debate going over their on the Record searchlight
If any of you guys want to chime in that would be great
http://www.redding.com/news/2009/jul/27/ban-suction-dredges-reaffirmed-judge/

[Hoser John]

ain't this a bitch-John

[Nuggetdigger]

i posted a rather long comment myself, but had to split it into two sections for it to post, but i screwed up and got the bottom comment on top and vise-verse.

i also thought the one comment was sort of stupid. the one person doesnt want to ban dredging because its bad for fish, but wants it banned because they couldnt get into the spot they wanted to camp or swim because of a gold dredger. i also think there comment on the water being stagnant and the trash was funny. ive seen more trsh left behind by campers and 4 wheelers than ive ever seen by gold dredgers. gold dredgers are always a bit more conscience about the trash, just because they know that if they leave garbage behind, that gives environmentalists ammunition to use against us.


like ive said a million times, show me an impartial report stating that gold dredging is bad for fish populations, and ill stand behind a ban 100%, but that will never happen because one doesnt exist. even when one was ordered by a court already ( which im wondering if the judge who ruled to cease issuing permits even took the time to check that out) the nuttjobs went behind the courts back, because they knew up front that gold prospectors supported such a study to once and for all lay all the bullshit to rest.


its like with obama being elected. doesnt make any difference it was proven that he isnt in any way shape or form a us citizen, he was groomed from day one to be the first black president. its pretty bad when you people who will even get on national tv and say they voted for him not because of the issues, but strictly because he was black, and then say they wanted to get the first one in there ( meaning black) under whatever pretenses they could, and they will vote for the next one for the right reasons....

[Sac - man]

good letter John !!

here is one from the Sacbee news
http://www.sacbee.com/ourregion/story/2 ... _Container

[Nuggetdigger]

i thought it got the point across

i see it as the majority of these people who support a ban on dredging have either had problems in the past (I.E. went to fish or swim in an area to find a dredger there already) or are just repeating what they have heard in the past comming from someone else without any proof of anything.

[cosmic]

Hmmm, I thought the judge said not to use general funds.. I thought the fees from the permits was what was funding it.. Not public general funds.. But what do I know..
Ray back here in Illinois

[Nuggetdigger]

ray

thats the point, judge says no general funds, but dredge permit issuance funds itself..

its just another prime example of these knottholes not doing their homework before issuing judgments


so, im wondering if, under the circumstances if some rich codger was to step forward and say "ill fund the issuance of dredging permits in CA" if it would put a squash on the BS. that way, the issuance of dredge permits would be privately funded, and there wouldnt be a question as to where the funding comes from

[Hoser John]

I think I'll start the CPM-Church of The Prospectors and Miners--communing with mother nature and god creations are a holy sacrament that I have treasured for over 50 years. As such it is illegal to disrupt my sacraments--dredging--and am thus protected under the freedom of religion. Repent you sinners and rejoice in the revelation of mother earth!!!! and dredge your brains out--HaHa--think I'm kidding NOPE serious as hell. If the GD karuk can kill fish as a religious right so I can dredge. If mormans can diddle childredn and multiple wives I can dredge as it is a religion to me. if the child molesting snake charming oil selling mofo's of the ding dong religious fanatics can claim religious exemption then by god I can damn well do so to. From the pulpit- Brother John

[Sac - man]

AMEN !!! Brother John

[Nuggetdigger]

Amen Brotha John

and here is my tuesday evening surmon


"And The Great Father came down from the heavens and said unto me "gather around you what is yours" and i did. he spoke the words of glittering gold under the still waters and he told me to go forth and bring these glittering pieces to the surface for all to see"

"so i did"

"thus the native called unto him in protest and greed and told The Great Father of his jealously of his white brother and asked The Great Father "why dost thou give my white brother the abilities and allow my white brother to remove these pieces of yellow metal from the earth and allowist my white brother to gather the wealth of the earth unto him?"

at that moment, the great father spoke and said

"my Son, i have created all of my sons of the earth equally, but my son who seeketh the glittering yellow pieces spends his time communing with the nature that i have bestowed on the Earth,he takeths the time to take care of his family, feed and clothe them with loaves and fishes ( and the occasional elk steak) and take care of and enjoy the nature i have bestowed upon all of my children. he taketh the time to pick up after those who have sought to litter the earth with pop cans,worm cartons and cigarrette butts,to clean the earths waterways of poisonous things that may hurt the wildlife and endanger my sons and daughters of the earth, and use the shiney yellow metal to take care of and feed his family,he telleth the truth and lives a fairly wholesome life...what does my native son do besides hurteth and killeth the populations of the fishes ive placed on this earth for all of my sons to feed their familes by using forked spears and nets to capture and kill them by the thousands, and then blame the destruction of the fishes on my white sons who want nothing but to be left alone. my native son, you goeth to my sons leaders and deceive them with tales that my white sons are hurting the fishes by removing their spawning areas and hurting the young of the earth fishes.my white sons work hard at trying to find this shiney yellow metal to use to help his family to get the things they needeth to survive. he leads a loving wholesome life and take the time to teach his children love for all of his brothers.
Eventually, all things merge into one my native son, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are shiney gold nuggets, and some of the words are theirs....what do you do my native son?"

and the native son said
"build casinos!"


The Great Reverend Nuggetdigger

[Rugerguy]

CAN I GET A WITNESS!!!! WEEZ GOTT-A, RISE UP-A. CAUSE-A, WE SHALL OVERCOME-A. (You've gotta picture me doing the southern black preacher impression as I'm typing)

Holla!!

[Nuggetdigger]

i think if i ever get rich, im going to buy us a big olde ghost town somewere out in arizona or the dakotas and revert it all back to the 1800's!

believe it or not, id bet a person could start their own religion like that and do that, IF they had enough money to fight it in the supreme court.

[Hoser John]

Rich LL- I got the folks down at the stinkn' state house to send me up some papers to file with the State Equalization board. I'm going to the law library to flesh out some questions--need 12 members of the congragation and a few meetings and I'm good to go??. HALELUAH BROTHERS . The creek is the center aisle to my church--the boulders are the pulpits and a stump for a lecturn and the RIGHTEOUS SHALL OVERCOME THE OPRESSORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brother John